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October 2nd, 2012

How Old is Retro?

Random Thoughts, by Michael.

Thinking about the issues I had with setting up my KryoFlux USB FDD controller on my venerable Power Mac QuickSilver 2002, got me cogitating over the “How old is Retro?” argument.

Many say the rule-of-thumb is 10 years.  On that basis, my QS2002 qualifies as the QS2002 range was released January 2002 as an update to the previous QuickSilver Power Macs, and ended July 2002, and then replaced by the “Mirror Door” series.

but . . . . . .

This machine is upgraded with:

  • Firewire 800
  • USB 2.0
  • SATA controller and 60GB SATA 2.5″
  • 500GB drive in addition to the 2x80GB originals (QS2002 come with Large HDD support)
  • Sonnet Dual 1.8Ghz CPU

This is still a usable system, and that I still use for Final Cut Studio (originally FCP 3.0 and DVDSP 1.5) and general work.  Does that mean that we need to look at the OS?

It originally came with MOS 9.2.2 – now that puts it in the “Ye olde OS category “, but it also came with OS X 10.1.2, and that can be upgraded all the way to 10.5.8, which is a similar age to XP, but far far better (IMHO).

Is the current maximum OS supported by Apple?  Sort of.  Although I haven’t seen an update (security, or otherwise) for quite a while, the software update server at Apple will still acknowledge its existence,  and supply program and OS updates as required, and of course I have all my OS and program updates squirreled away in preparedness of that inevitable day when Apple turns off the update servers, as they have for 10.3, and earlier (Software Update no longer available in Mac OS X v10.3 and earlier).

So, here we sit on the border of current vs retro, and for now I’ll just say it’s my favourite Mac, and that is more retro than not, but not quite all the way.

More information on the QuickSilver 2002 Power Mac at:






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Responses to “How Old is Retro?”

  1. Here are the Xbench results for the original IDE drive, the 500GB SATA, and the OWC SSD: Both the 500GB and OWC 60GB are running off the SATA controller I added to increase the online storage options.

    Drive Type ST380021A ST380021A
    Disk Test 40.37
    Sequential 56.68
    Uncached Write 53.36 32.76 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 54.15 30.64 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 57.03 16.69 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 63.19 31.76 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 31.35
    Uncached Write 11.50 1.22 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 55.13 17.65 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 83.04 0.59 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 95.54 17.73 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    Drive Type ST3500820AS ST3500820AS
    Disk Test 61.80
    Sequential 121.38
    Uncached Write 104.61 64.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 154.25 87.28 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 87.12 25.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 184.07 92.51 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 41.46
    Uncached Write 14.26 1.51 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 144.39 46.22 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 84.33 0.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 132.36 24.56 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    Drive Type OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD
    Disk Test 188.73
    Sequential 119.62
    Uncached Write 115.16 70.71 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 158.42 89.63 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 75.19 22.00 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 194.44 97.72 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Random 446.95
    Uncached Write 309.75 32.79 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Write 295.30 94.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]
    Uncached Read 2509.73 17.78 MB/sec [4K blocks]
    Uncached Read 516.43 95.83 MB/sec [256K blocks]

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